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« on: July 12, 2006, 03:07:55 am »
Got some questions for the hardcore boarders out there! What speed is good for wakeboarding? Is there a secret for getting some air cause it seems the harder I try to get some air it doesn't happen, I'm getting like a few feet. I'm not using any ballasts.Got any tips,thanks.
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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2006, 15:13:57 pm »
If you are just starting out, go about 18 with no weight. Practice jumping one side of the wake, inside to out, try to get a little "pop" each time. Try the other way. Keep your cut all the way into the wake, keep your elbows tight to your side and stand tall at the top of the wake.
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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2006, 16:03:03 pm »
Get that tower and the air will come. Cyclone has good advice.
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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2006, 16:23:47 pm »
When you hit the wake make sure to push down on the handle don't hold it high or your going no where

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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2006, 18:25:57 pm »
I'd strongly suggest Detention, Higher Education or any of the newer instructional DVDs out there. Money well spent, as they take you from beginner to moves where an old guy like me can't even follow the rotation when in slow motion.

My warm up is always to go out just to the edge of the foam/whitewash (about like ten feet or so) and very slowly and smoothly roll onto the board's edge. The goal is to keep it slow and progressive and end up at the top of the wake with 1) your legs the most extended they've been, 2) the most amount of tension on the rope, 3) the most amount of speed across the wake. This isn't to say that you need to be hauling a$$ across the wake, just that you've progressively gone from straight and level to edged, loaded and extended, with all peaking right at the wake. When done correctly, it's one motion and you get enough pop to get wake to wake in a controlled way after only starting ten feet out. I do that toeside and heelside a few times and will then start out farther in the flats.

Even when you move out farther, you want that same feeling of rolling slowly & progressively into your edge but will reach a certain edge and then just hold it for a time while the speed and tension builds on the way to hitting the wake. If you roll progressively until there's a lot of tension while you're still too far outside of the wake, you'll screw yourself by having to ease up on your edge as the speed and tension builds. Much better to progressively roll into a weak edge but then hold it all the way through (it won't be a weak edge by the time you get to the wake) than to build an agressive edge early and then have to ease off as you approach the wake. In the latter case, you'll have all kinds of speed and no lift.

For me, I can tell when the boat's going too fast when I set an edge early and end up having to ease it before the wake.

Biggest thing is just make sure tension, speed and body extension are all peaked at the wake and you'll fly. If you keep your handle down at your hip and at the right location, you'll stay true in the air. Let the handle come up and you'll rotate into a header. Let go of your front hand or move the handle back across your stomach and you'll rotate in the air and either land sideways or 180 off of where you started. Now the fun part is when you let the handle rise AND let it come back across your stomach - then you start getting the off-axis front roll to faceplant.

Heelside is pretty easy in terms of handle position - start with it at the front hip, and end at the front hip to stomach or so. Toeside's harder in that the handle needs to start at the front hip and end at like the back side of the front hip (farther around your body) and usually in the air, you'll actually push the handle down lower a little to keep from being pulled over towards the boat.

Even after you get across the wake a few times, try that warmp up I described - since it's all in one motion, you clearly see the effects line tension (aka edge plus speed) on pop. You also see that you don't need to CHARGE the wake to get across. Often the more speed you carry in, the less height and control you end with.

With all that being said, I'm the last person that should be giving advice ;-) Got the edge down, though!
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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2006, 20:44:50 pm »
Hey Freak, just read your annual Maintenance Procedures that is really good stuff, just took it to Kinkos to get it laminated and bound.Thanks

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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2006, 22:36:22 pm »
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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2006, 22:48:00 pm »
I would also say make sure your using a board thats from the last 3 or 4 years.  I picked up my old obrian 8-ball wakeboard from like 1994 and when and tried to hit a wake, and it was useless.  I'm not sure if boards weren't made to jump back then....but its big, thick, heavy, and doesn't fly.

I think it was made back when wakeboarding was just impressive because it was sideways, and a board was built just to enable you actualy get out of the water and ride.  Since air and tricks came around things are different.   I bought a pretty cheap hyperlite...and now I scare myself.
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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2006, 20:24:20 pm »
how long should the rope be mine is 55ft
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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2006, 20:45:28 pm »
I'm at 70'

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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2006, 22:46:17 pm »
And you can get some air? I thought the shorter the rope the bigger the wake would be.
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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2006, 23:00:07 pm »
I'm old but, I'm still getting air and sometimes they have to give me oxygen.

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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2006, 01:04:00 am »
I think when you're FIRST learning to get up, turn, edge, etc., a full-length rope will help because you're so far behind all the goos stuff. My rop comes with two extensions, and I'd put both of them in for a first-timer. Once you're ready to start jumping wake to wake, you'll want to bring the rope in all the way. The distance between wakes is much shorter, so you don't have to CHARGE the wake (which is always bad for a beginner.) Start letting the rope out when you can get across cleanly toeside. We can all kill heelside and end up out in the flats - not as comfortable as landing on the transition of the other wake, though. Thing is, you've got to be able to make it both ways. Let your toeside determine rope length. Towards the end of last year I got to where whenever I really tried to go semi big toeside I'd end up in the flats - time to add the 5' extension.

When I first started, I used the full-length rope and you've really got to charge to get across - teaches all sorts of bad habits.

Let me revise the recommendation - let your SWITCH toeside determine rope length.
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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2006, 01:20:18 am »
with one extension that s70'is it not?

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Re: wakeboarding
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2006, 01:37:56 am »
I thought the mainline was 60' and included 5' and 10' sections. The 5' handle would have to be added to that. That's my recollaection anyway. I just looked and the new ones come with three 5' extensions. For some reason I'm very doubtful, like maybe the 60' base includes 5' for handle. Just not too sure.
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