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Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« on: June 19, 2007, 05:19:29 am »
Long story short -- the fitting on my new ballast sack came out while filling and I didn't realize it until the boat started losing power, I stopped the boat, and water came rushing over the floorboards.  Honestly thought we were sinking -- fortunately, we weren't.  Got that taken care of.

But the unfortunate result of all this is:
1) My boat died.
2) The throttle physically will not move into reverse.
3) The wiring to the tranny and/or a servo back there floated up into the bolts that attach the driveshaft to the transmission, got wrapped up in the bolts and ripped the wiring out.  It was two wires -- one black and one red that I believe attach to the mechanism on top of the transmission shifter dealio (probably not the technical term).

1)  Should I have any concerns about running my boat after the engine was sitting in about 8" of water -- enough water to make it stall out?
2) I'm hoping this is related to #3
3) How are these wires supposed to be run, and where do they go to?  See pics and please advise.  One of the two connectors you see goes to the top off the tranny shifter dealio (again, probably not a technical term), the other says "servo" on the casing.

Thank you in advance!!
Cal
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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2007, 15:19:24 pm »
I can't help you with the wiring, but I will note that the bilge looks nice and clean now! Good luck...
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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2007, 15:28:06 pm »
Thank you -- unfortunately that's the least of my worries right now.  ;)  If somebody could check the wiring on their boat and just tell me where the wiring from the tranny runs to, that would be extremely helpful.  The wires ripped too clean, so there is no telling where they came from.  Thanks!
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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2007, 03:00:09 am »
Even if you don't know what you're doing and could help me out, I would appreciate it.  I would imagine all of us have the exact same wiring to the tranny as I do.

I have:
1) Two wires (red and white) coming from the transmission linkage that end at a plastic wire casing -- see pics above. 
2) Three wires that obviously go to a servo of some sort.  These wires also end at a plastic wire casing.   (because it says servo near the casing). 

So I have two sections of wire that each end in a plastic casing.  The section of wire that was damaged is the section between these two still-existing casings. 

I believe that one or both of these casings are missing parts, which are nowhere to be found in my bilge. 

That's all I know.  Would you mind looking at the pics above and see if can figure out what is missing?  Also, are these little plastic casing pieces easy to find or do I need to special order them?

Thank you and sorry for my impatience, but I get nervous when things are broken and getting this fixed is the first step to making sure I didn't damage anything else...

Thanks,
Cal
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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2007, 03:07:58 am »
That sucks!  I don't have my boat here to look at but, are you sure those two ends don't go together?

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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2007, 03:39:48 am »
I'll be back in town Friday night. If no one has posted any by then, I'll take some and post them on Saturday
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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2007, 04:59:02 am »
Yup, sure they don't go together.  There is about a 16" section of wiring that was ripped out, and somewhere in that 16" the wiring went from 2-wires to 3-wires...
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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2007, 05:53:12 am »
Your boat is pretty much the same as mine.  I am going out on it this Saturday and will most likely bring it home to clean on Sunday and tighten the packing.  Did you have to take off the motor box to get to that picture you took?  I would like to get a good picture of mine for you but have yet to figure out how to remove panels on the floor of my boat.  If you haven't gotten an answer by the time I get to mine, I will try to hook you up.  Good luck in the mean time.
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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2007, 05:58:30 am »
Yep, to get to your packing you will have to take the motor box off, and the two floor pieces behind it.  You literally just lift the two floor pieces up and they come right out. If I had a close-up picture of the two little plastic pieces in the pics above but in that are still in working condition, my hope is I can take the pics to the Toyota dealership or an auto shop in town and they will have what I need or point me in the right direction.  Thanks guys.
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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2007, 06:25:17 am »
I am hitting the lake Wednesday night with a bunch of friends and will take the photos since we have the exact same boat.  I will do it while I am pulling tha boat back out of the water.  I will just match the photos that you took.

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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2007, 11:55:01 am »
The plugs are from the cruise control/
Does the boat start and run ?

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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2007, 16:48:02 pm »
The plugs are for cruise control?  Accuski or PerfectPass?  If it's Accuski, I guess I won't have to worry since the system is all disconnected?  I know I didn't install that when I wired up PerfectPass...

Yes, the boat starts and runs.  I was just nervous that I shouldn't be doing that.  When the water settled, it was just about even with the bottom of my floorboards (or the top of the battery).  I don't see how this could have done any damage to the engine, but at the same point I've never had the boat stall out before.  After it stalled, it wouldn't start again until all the water was drained from the bilge.

The other problem I'm having is at the throttle -- now I'm thinking this is not related to the wiring.  The throttle literally will NOT go into reverse.  So not only will the boat not run in reverse, but the throttle lever will not even move backwards.  I'm wondering if water got into my throttle cables and screwed them up??  But I have no idea.

Thanks Capt. 
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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2007, 23:38:05 pm »
The shifter connection on the Accuski is blocking the cable from going into reverse. Look at the transmission as you move the shifter to reverse. It takes a 1/16 i think alan wrench  to adjust linkage or just rotate it doen't not hit.
Also check the alt for good output after they get wet they stop outputting.

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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2007, 03:25:03 am »
You nailed it... I just removed the entire assembly and now everything is working perfectly.  Thank you, Capt!
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Re: Some tranny wiring issues, and some other stuff
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2007, 03:29:24 am »
Rick to the rescue!
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