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Re: Get rid of DECC?
« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2020, 15:48:29 pm »
Pete:

So awesome!! Given my novice history, may need some handholding to get it set up on my SX.  Interested if this can replace my ballast switch and tank level setup - I continue to have breakers trip if I try too many pumps at a time:-)
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Re: Get rid of DECC?
« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2020, 15:22:52 pm »
HI brad,
Yes, you can use it to do the ballast too. There's a second decc for ballast controls, and they switch another box with four large relays that do the two pumps and two valve (factory SX ballast)

I decided to get rid of the 2nd problematic DECC and retain the other relay box with the four relays as it does the level display for the ballast tanks and I want to keep that. So, you can take the four orange wires off the second decc and wire it right to the new relay box. I am trying to decide how to place the buttons on the screen, but as far as function goes its no big deal and the new switchpanel will control everything.

One thing that is very important when using relays to switch inductive loads (motors, pumps, fans, blowers) is that you need a suppressor diode across the load or it will not switch properly or consistently. Toyota mentions this and I think you can order them from the parts page, I simply make them using 1n4007 diodes and will include a bunch with any unit I sell. they call them suppressor diodes.

Our boats needed these and boat dealers did not know this when wiring accessories. There is a voltage spike that happens when the load is switched off (magnetic field collapsing causing a surge) and this spike probably kills the microprocessors in the DECC system over time. I think it is a big reason for the decc boxes and button panels failing.

Brad, I'll send you a PM with my number if you don't have it, you have been very helpful over the years and I will cut you a break. System comes with a manual and technical assistance, it's designed to be plug and play so it shouldn't be too hard for you to install.
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Re: Get rid of DECC?
« Reply #63 on: September 24, 2021, 16:14:21 pm »
Epic Dave,

More pictures of what you had to do under the dash would be great!  Did you wire your new switches into the breaker box,

how did you manage the power and ground after eliminating the DECC?

I am considering going your way, just need more info on the DECC elimination.  Your control panel looks great, it must be nice to have eliminated flashing buttons and accessory mayhem!

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Re: Get rid of DECC?
« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2021, 16:04:25 pm »
The original DECC has 3 sets of posts: one post for incoming battery power, one post for ground, and then a terminal strip that outputs power (when the switch is on) to the orange switch wires which lead to the fuse box (and then on to each accessory). I replaced the DECC with 2 buss bars - 1 for power and 1 for ground and a terminal strip for the switch wires. The positive and negative wires simply moved to the new buss bars, like these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C4W7YKG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The orange wires were moved to a terminal switch like this:
https://www.parts-express.com/12-Pole-25A-Barrier-Terminal-Strip-with-Snap-on-Clear-Plastic-Cover-090-849

On the other side of the terminal strip, I ran a wire to each respective switch on the new switch panel.
So, each switch has a power lead, a ground lead, and the outgoing switch wire (to the terminal strip). The ground is only needed because the switches I used have an indicator light that get powered on when that switch is on. To reduce the number of wires (which is a lot more than with a DECC), I ran two positive and two ground wires to the panel (one to the top row and one to the bottom row) and then wired each switch in parallel using short "jumper" wires.

The panel is installed, so not sure I can get pics easily without disassembling it, but here is a similar example.
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