Switches Failed

[Round2]

Hello All - Been a long time reader but newly registered to the site.  Thank you for all of the great help over the years through forum searches. 

I'm on my second Epic S22.  First one I bought new in 2001 and got crushed by a tree in 2007 (long story).  And I just bought Bullet's 2001 S22 last year.  Used it all last summer with no real issues other than the typical strange readings on the gauges. 

Put the boat on the water a few weeks ago and got nothing from the 6 and 4 button switch panels.  I've read it all and tried it all but I'm pretty sure the DECC is fried. 

So, given the issues we all have with these switch panels I think I'm going to have New Wire Marine make me a custom panel for the dash with the rockers I need, ignition switch hole and 12V plug.  The question is, does the DECC just provide on/off 12V power like a switch? I'm thinking I can unscrew all of the orange wires from the DECC and use the plug to connect to the existing accessory wiring harness.  Then I just need to make sure the new rocker outputs get matched to the proper orange wire on the white DECC plug. 

Has anyone replaced the DECC yet?  Also trying to figure out how to deal with the ground (the DECC has one so I assume I need to add a terminal somewhere if I pull the DECC) and I'm still not sure how the fuse/breaker box is wired in to the whole system. 

Still a bunch a research to do.  I'll keep you posted if I make any progress.  Any assistance on DECC function would be appreciated especially if there is more to it than on/off and momentary switch functions.

Thanks!
 

[Capt Rick]

The DECC is a relay box, and take he digital signal of the button to turn on and off a relay.

The boat has a circuit breakers wired in so good luck.

 Or remove the decc w orange wires, and gray wire and both set of buttons and send to me I can test and reprogam the decc box . Fee is $75.00

First unlug the two harness and reset battery switch does the lights go on for each swithed pressed?

Capt Rick

[Capt Rick]

1 st turn off battery switch.
 Unplug the 2 white plugs at the orange wires.
turn on battery switch ( all lights should flash )
press each button to turn light on red indicate circuit is working.
If they don't stay on except for Horn which is on as long as you hold button.
 
Turn off battery switch
Remove Positive and negative wires ( if it has a plug unplug it) if direct then tie each wire and wrap with electrical tape.

remove cover to 4 and 6 button switch it has double face tape. Then remove the Phillips screws
unplug gray wire at switch's and remove both switch's

remove decc with Phillips screws Take a picture where is  mounted. remove spedo hose and plug hoses with a screw to prevent water into boat.

Send a Check for $75.
Rick Cohn
10200 Newington Drive
Orlando, Fl. 32836

[Round2]

Thanks Rick - I've tried all of that.  When I repower the DECC with the white plugs undone I don't even get the initial flash you normally see when you flip the battery switch on.  Nothing happens.  But I have confirmed 12.3 volts at the positive terminal of the DECC and a good ground.  The DECC is still mounted upside down under the gauges.  May have just gotten wet through the winter.

If I can't figure out a new switch cluster, I will pull it and send the unit to you for testing and likely replacement.  Do you still have any DECC's?  Thank you for the advice and help.

[toyotafreak]

Ugh. Gremlins in the panel this weekend for what I recall to be the first time. Blower stuck on. Bilge pump unresponsive. Etc. Message center was even covered with darks lines for a bit. All I can think (besides the end being near) is limping along with our 12 year old battery. Thought I'd try to make one more season but ain#t gonna do it. Cycled perko to get thinks settled.

[blindside]

Ugh. Gremlins in the panel this weekend for what I recall to be the first time. Blower stuck on. Bilge pump unresponsive. Etc. Message center was even covered with darks lines for a bit. All I can think (besides the end being near) is limping along with our 12 year old battery. Thought I'd try to make one more season but ain#t gonna do it. Cycled perko to get thinks settled.

Your battery is 12 years old? What is it cause I am buying that one next time.

[toyotafreak]

Optima blue top bought in 2003. Reading up a bit on them last night. Bottom of the battery comes in two colors, make sure you go with the white/light gray not the dark gray. There is also discussion of an AGM sold by Sears that's a private label version of the Odyssey if I recall correctly. Lots of people hate the Optima, and I've heard they've gone downhill since when I bought it.

But how can I not buy another? After that run, they've so earned another try.

Still trying to think how our use case was the right formula. We didn't have an amplifier until last year, and besides occasional fat sack pumps, there's no reall accys drawing power. For at least five years (maybe more) have switched it between the boat and old daily driver (95 Toyota pickup with 22RE and zero electrical stuff.) It's got 500 boat engine hours on it and maybe 75-100K truck miles. Average probably six lake trips per year. Never ever used a maintainer. Did run it to zero twice and just overnight charged it back.