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Overheating
« on: July 23, 2018, 20:24:31 pm »
Our SX22 has started overheating after we took out on the water after 2.5 years of sitting idle. I've done the following:

1. Changed the Impeller (water is flowing from the back exhaust)
2. Removed and tested the thermostat and it was working fine
3. Tried to burp the closed loop cooling system and had some minor success.
4. Removed the pipes that goes into the heat exchanger and raw water is flowing, but the coolant is coming in somewhat slow.

Based on my rudimentary knowledge of anything mechanical, all evidence is leading towards a water pump issue.  Any thoughts or suggestions from the experts out there?

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Re: Overheating
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2018, 00:31:12 am »
Does the closed loop system have anything it? 2.5 years sitting is a long time. You might want to see if there is anything in it and possibly flush it. It's definitely possible the impeller on the water pump is toast but I'd check the fluids first as the engine water pump is part of the timing belt job and expensive to replace because of that.

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Re: Overheating
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2018, 17:13:50 pm »
Are you saying there might be something in the closed loop system? I am not sure how anything could get inside it when everything is closed.  Impeller was changed recently - and that is why I was suspecting the closed loop system water pump.

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Re: Overheating
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2018, 03:08:22 am »
I assume you've ruled out faulty readings from your temp guage? Are the risers getting too hot to touch?
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Re: Overheating
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2018, 07:01:22 am »
Yes i did rule out the gauges. The coolants and the risers were very hot.

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Re: Overheating
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2018, 23:30:50 pm »
I contacted Monitor Products (makers of the heat exchanger) over the winter concerned about my closed looped system overheating.  They mentioned I could take a 22 gauge rifle cleaning kit and open up both ends of the heat exchanger and clean the holes inside for any build up.  I carefully removed the ends taking care not to damage the gaskets and did as they suggested.  I noticed some amounts of build up but no blockage.
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Re: Overheating
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2018, 00:01:03 am »
Thanks Brad - The mechanic did take apart the heat exchanger and said it was very clean/clear. We use the boat regularly on Lake Tahoe which is very clear water without sand and algae.
 

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Re: Overheating
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2018, 01:35:23 am »
2 things to check

1 is there good water flow from the lake thru the sea strainer then heat exchanger then exhaust manifold, then muffler then pipe then out the single 4 inch exhaust .... what is the temp of lake  and temp at exhaust

2.  What is the engine temperature? The gauge is very accurate....
 As soon as you start______ , at 1500 rpm _______.

3. There is an allen set screw I think about a 3/8 remove that to vent air out of system....next to thermostat

4. If you open cap before you start how much coolant can you add each time ?
Are you adding no more then 50 % of antifreeze. Don't use a silicone based antifreeze.

5 remove both black rubber caps on the heater pipes next to elec panel. and place a clear hose to the other and raise the hose high as possible

6. What is the hull number ?
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Re: Overheating
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2018, 18:45:59 pm »
Cool!! Don't recall this list. Great info. Let us know what you find...Thanks for posting!!!

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Re: Overheating
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2018, 23:40:42 pm »
Thanks for the info Rick - See my answers below:

2 things to check

1 is there good water flow from the lake thru the sea strainer then heat exchanger then exhaust manifold, then muffler then pipe then out the single 4 inch exhaust .... what is the temp of lake  and temp at exhaust

The water flow from the lake is pretty good and a good chunk of water comes out the back exhaust when I rev the engine. The impeller was recently replaced. The boat is on Lake Tahoe so the water is quite cold, around 60-60 F.  The temp at the exhaust on Fake a Lake seems pretty cool, however, when I run the boat with a wake surfer behind me there is definitely steam, which I think means the water coming out is warm?

2.  What is the engine temperature? The gauge is very accurate....
 As soon as you start______ , at 1500 rpm _______.


The temp is at the lowest mark for the first couple of minutes and then raises to around 160 when I rev @ 1500



3. There is an allen set screw I think about a 3/8 remove that to vent air out of system....next to thermostat

I did vent the system while on the lake thanks to Wakejunky (Doug) who walked me through it. I did vent for a while, and lot of air was coming out each time I opened it and I was adding coolant. It took nearly half of gallon of the pink stuff (Toyota Coolant)

4. If you open cap before you start how much coolant can you add each time ?

Normally the reservoir level does not change.

Are you adding no more then 50 % of antifreeze. Don't use a silicone based antifreeze.

I added a lot when I was burping the system

5 remove both black rubber caps on the heater pipes next to elec panel. and place a clear hose to the other and raise the hose high as possible

Can you clarify on this? I am not sure what you mean.

6. What is the hull number ?

I don't know, since I am not near the boat, but it is the same boat that Doug (Wakejunky) owned.

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Re: Overheating
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2018, 01:49:17 am »
Additional note - I just got a call from the mechanic working on this and he said 4 out of the 6 spark plugs were shot and needed to be replaced.  He did say he is going to run a compression test to make sure everything is ok with the engine.

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Re: Overheating
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2018, 02:20:22 am »
Always do a compression check each year.


Also have the mechanic remove one of the valve plastic head cover #2 or #11. To see the condition of the timing belt, and how much water has corroded the internal water pump.... They do leak!!!!

http://www.epicmarine.com/figures/e_Fig_4.php


Part #32 on http://www.epicmarine.com/figures/e_Fig_13.php for the hose test


So far I do't see any issues...

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Re: Overheating
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2018, 00:10:49 am »
Got the compression results and everything came back great. Next step is to remove the plate to the timing belt and check the condition of the pump.

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Re: Overheating
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2018, 04:37:11 am »
Great news - Thanks to the advice from Doug and Capt Rick the problem was after all an air bubble in the cooling system. Once we got rid of that, the temp normalized - Thanks everyone for your comments/help.